JimmyT 11:03 Tue Feb 12
Insect extinction
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So, a global review of scientific research suggests that all insect life on Earth could be extinct within the next 100 years, causing a total collapse of every ecosystem on the planet.
Not great news, is it?
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bruuuno
1:13 Wed Feb 20
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Saw loads of bees out today, they obviously didn’t read the story
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Nurse Ratched
1:23 Mon Feb 18
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Good work.
I'm not worried about the toaster. Give it a few months and there will be research articles telling us owning a toaster leads to lower blood pressure. Oh, and insect numbers are due to explode to unmanageable levels. The weevils are coming for our toast! Vast clouds of wasps mugging us for our jam! AAAARRRRGH! CATASTROPHE, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE.
And so forth.
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gph
1:09 Mon Feb 18
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Is it from Tesco?
A Tesco's saucepan tried to injure me recently - handle came off when I tried to pick it up.
My reactions are still too fast.
It was just a Cato to my Clouseau
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Nurse Ratched
8:32 Sun Feb 17
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More catastrophising.
It's losing its impact.
This morning I learned my toaster is going to kill me.
Meh.
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plankton
8:28 Sun Feb 17
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For sure, for all of us, times are going to change. How it will work out is anyone's guess. I'm nearly sixty years old, but I wonder how my kids and grandchildren are going to cope when they ask. "Did you know about this ? What did you do then?"
Remorse is a terrible hangover....what will you all reply when it all comes crashing down?
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BRANDED
6:44 Sun Feb 17
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Plank
Many things are possible. Data suggests that after each great die off what proceeded was an incredible species expansion.
Along with that you could say embeded in all the DNA on Earth is an incredible resource.
In general I find the theories of 60 harvests left and enough fertiliser for 50 years and all the doom laden projections just that. If you'rebetting on the future you!re already playing god.
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Nurse Ratched
6:12 Sun Feb 17
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Grim Rieper
I much prefer Flying Ant Day to Are the MOBOS Racist Day.
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Hammer and Pickle
5:54 Sun Feb 17
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Will Earth end up like Mars or Venus?
The methane scenario indicates the latter.
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The Grim Rieper
5:48 Sun Feb 17
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Life without Flying Ant Day, quite frankly, wouldn't be worth living.
The wasps can fuck off.
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plankton
5:45 Sun Feb 17
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And whether climate change is real or not, or whether it is affecting the weather or not, the reality is that the planet is heating up, and temperatures are rising since the last glaciation event. As a result, the frozen methane and carbon deposits on the ocean floor and in the permafrost are starting to be released as they were in the same stage of the glaciation cycle as last time, 250 million years ago in the Permian, when 90% of all life on earth died. A 50 gigaton release of methane from those deposits over just 10 years will be catastrophic for many life forms. We can argue the intricacies of the methane mechanism till the internet dies, but the truth is it remains a huge threat to almost every living animal and other life-form on the planet.
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gph
5:42 Sun Feb 17
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Life won't end in that scenario.
Only most multicellular life, possibly including all vertebrates.
Which is a great comfort.
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plankton
5:34 Sun Feb 17
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Did either of you read the article fully? If you did, you might realise why your comments make no sense whatsoever. World population growth is not going to kill is, our destruction of the food chain is.
"If the bottom of our billion-year-old food web disintegrates, you can be certain that the repercussions to humans will be dramatic and terribly difficult to ‘fix.’ In scientific terms, it will be called a “bottom-up trophic cascade”.
In a trophic cascade, the loss of a single layer of the food pyramid crumbles the entire structure. Carefully-tuned food webs a billion years in the making are suddenly de-stabilised. Life cannot adapt quickly enough, and so entire species are quickly lost. Once enough species die off, the web cannot be rewoven, and life … simply ends."
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Willtell
11:41 Sun Feb 17
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Yes - I'll let you know how the next couple of hundred years goes....
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BRANDED
11:33 Sun Feb 17
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Well, replacement rate is two children per couple and in many developed societies its already dropped bellow that, probs cos women want professional lives more than bringing up kids.
Equilibrium is where new births equal old people dying off so as the average age of death has gone up and up its helped increase the total population.
Might be interesting to live in the next vouple of hundred years.
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Willtell
11:25 Sun Feb 17
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We agree on something BRANDED! Nature has a marvelous habit of sorting things out. I remember reading somewhere that fertility rates in western humans is dropping. Pollution and drought from global warming, will kill off billions and bring the numbers back to a sustainable level.
I wonder how long it will be before governments start killing off their excess human beings? Who would be termed "excess"? There's a few posters on WHO for a start....
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BRANDED
11:10 Sun Feb 17
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Thanks Plankton.
Thing is, we are a species of 7.5 billion. Even the second world war or ghe first eorld war or some of the diseases of the 20c hardly made a dent on human's ability to survive and procreate. Its not that people have been talking about this for a very long time its just that it doesnt stop humans. It hasnt stopped them. There is a lot of evidence suggesting that the population will stabilise around 10 billion assuming there is no die off.
So, on a macro level humans might reach 10 billion and the Earth might collapse under the pressure. Lets say half die off. That gets us back to about 1990.
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plankton
11:00 Sun Feb 17
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The article I linked too starts to get really interesting about halfway through, after the details of what is happening to Australia.
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plankton
10:56 Sun Feb 17
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Read this recently, a pretty dire summation of what is wrong with the planet currently, how it has gone wrong, and what we have to do to make it better - if we can. Sigh. It's a good read and factually pretty correct without any tabloid drama involved.
A wee hint - if you want to have a happy Sunday, don't read it. It is utterly depressing.
https://tasmaniantimes.com/2019/01/collapse-is-already-here-its-a-process-not-an-event/?fbclid=IwAR2ZyLeJSxTXRgo-Ncai0OBHu0KaTxt-wgFtkApMNj148YVvnzhi-IKdNR8
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Vexed
8:35 Wed Feb 13
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Pipe down Len you embarrassing old cuntflap.
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Willtell
8:33 Wed Feb 13
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You're pathetic in your desire to get into Nurses' knickers....
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